royus77
07-11 10:27 PM
Originally Posted by conchshell
Viceroy Lord Wavell and his assistants laughed when M.K. Gandhi told them that one day they will be forced to leave India. What they did not understood that they were not politicians, they were bureaucrats. When the political power behind peaceful civil disobedience was unleashed, a nation took shape, and what Gandhi told Wavell became a reality.
Something similar repeated in United States recently when thousands of legal immigrants were given a cold shoulder, despite of their merit based claim for an American Green Card. They decided to apply Gandhian way of peaceful protest by sending thousands of flower bouquets to USCIS, an American agency responsible for immigration and citizenship. Instead of offering an apology, USCIS chief decided to again ignore the immigrants and simply issued a statement that the flowers will be forwarded to the injured service members recuperating at Walter Reed Army Medical Center. Once again a bureaucrat miscalculated the power hidden behind a peaceful protest. Now the power behind flowers is becoming a media mainstream story. NY Times, Washington Post, Reuters, Yahoo News are a few to name. Bollywood, has recently issued a statement providing its full support to Immigration Voice, the non profit organization behind the flower campaign.
An American way of fighting injustice "A law suit" is on its way, the usual rallies and demonstrations are about to begin. However, in America, its first time after Martin Luther King Jr., that someone has tried to apply Gandhi's way to fight injustice. It is yet not clear that what would be the outcome of this campaign, but there are rumours that USCIS is already discussing internally to reverse the discriminatory decision which resulted in this flower campaign causing enough embarrassement to them.
Its amazing to witness that 60 years after Gandhi's demise, his ideology is still relevant. We are sure its gonna remain relevant till there are Lord Wavell's in this world. Wavell's can momentarily laugh thinking that unorganized immigrants are helpless, but when the peaceful protest will demonstrate its political power, they surely will realize what Gandhi and Gandhian ways are all about. :D.......
Viceroy Lord Wavell and his assistants laughed when M.K. Gandhi told them that one day they will be forced to leave India. What they did not understood that they were not politicians, they were bureaucrats. When the political power behind peaceful civil disobedience was unleashed, a nation took shape, and what Gandhi told Wavell became a reality.
Something similar repeated in United States recently when thousands of legal immigrants were given a cold shoulder, despite of their merit based claim for an American Green Card. They decided to apply Gandhian way of peaceful protest by sending thousands of flower bouquets to USCIS, an American agency responsible for immigration and citizenship. Instead of offering an apology, USCIS chief decided to again ignore the immigrants and simply issued a statement that the flowers will be forwarded to the injured service members recuperating at Walter Reed Army Medical Center. Once again a bureaucrat miscalculated the power hidden behind a peaceful protest. Now the power behind flowers is becoming a media mainstream story. NY Times, Washington Post, Reuters, Yahoo News are a few to name. Bollywood, has recently issued a statement providing its full support to Immigration Voice, the non profit organization behind the flower campaign.
An American way of fighting injustice "A law suit" is on its way, the usual rallies and demonstrations are about to begin. However, in America, its first time after Martin Luther King Jr., that someone has tried to apply Gandhi's way to fight injustice. It is yet not clear that what would be the outcome of this campaign, but there are rumours that USCIS is already discussing internally to reverse the discriminatory decision which resulted in this flower campaign causing enough embarrassement to them.
Its amazing to witness that 60 years after Gandhi's demise, his ideology is still relevant. We are sure its gonna remain relevant till there are Lord Wavell's in this world. Wavell's can momentarily laugh thinking that unorganized immigrants are helpless, but when the peaceful protest will demonstrate its political power, they surely will realize what Gandhi and Gandhian ways are all about. :D.......
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02-16 11:52 PM
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10-04 09:49 AM
I found out the receipt numbers from check image. The details
EB3- Nov 2004 (PD)
Labor - Approved Feb 2007
I-140 - March 31 2007(Pending)
I -485 - August 15 2007 (Received at NSC)
Receipt Date - September 28 2007
Didn't apply for EAD/AP
EB3- Nov 2004 (PD)
Labor - Approved Feb 2007
I-140 - March 31 2007(Pending)
I -485 - August 15 2007 (Received at NSC)
Receipt Date - September 28 2007
Didn't apply for EAD/AP
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gk_2000
07-19 07:44 PM
It is indeed ugly and disgusting that anyone who talks of doing good to EB3 ends up getting reds. IV should remember that EB3 members outnumber EB2's by a vast margin and they deserve to get justice too
And it is not as if EB3's are less qualified. Most are as much or more qualified and experienced than EB2's. It is just an accident they are in EB3, as companies put them there when there was no difference in USCIS policy between the two
If I continue to see the treatment meted out to EB3's in these forums I would take the decision to quit IV..
And it is not as if EB3's are less qualified. Most are as much or more qualified and experienced than EB2's. It is just an accident they are in EB3, as companies put them there when there was no difference in USCIS policy between the two
If I continue to see the treatment meted out to EB3's in these forums I would take the decision to quit IV..
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07-20 10:38 AM
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11-17 08:35 PM
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flthere
07-21 04:00 PM
Whoever the lawmaker was who came up with the idea of allocating leftover EB4, EB-5 to EB-1 ! What? the least wanted category giving away its quota to highly deserving EB-1 ? How low can their thinking go ?
What ? the leftover EB-1 highly deserving visas given to slightly less deserving EB2 ? :)
Is there a proposal with IV to seek rethinking abt this spillover process ?
What ? the leftover EB-1 highly deserving visas given to slightly less deserving EB2 ? :)
Is there a proposal with IV to seek rethinking abt this spillover process ?
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08-25 02:23 PM
485+131+765 - Delivered on 5th July - TSC - EB3
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pani_6
12-12 09:29 PM
I posted to topic "My concern- Skill in 2009"...then came proud american..derailed us off track and then we forgot our route....now back to the route....what action are we talking to intorduce this Eb interm relief Bill in senate in Jan..I think we need an input from Core members about how to proceed here..
Each of us write to all out state senators and also important once like Nance pelosi, Mccain..so on...about providing some non-contraversial releif...we need to mention those and send LEGIBLE HAND WRITTEN LETTERS without spelling mistakes and send it fedex.....Send it during Chirstmas ...dot forget to mention God Bless America...just explain in simple words that we have been waiting for some relief from 2001 and have not seen any...please consider passing these non-contraversial issuses....I think they are reasonable and would agree....also mention that we have been dodged like a football saying skill/CIR and so on....
Better yet a skillfull person writing this and all of us using this...
Target is to intorduce the EB interm bill by End of Jan
Each of us write to all out state senators and also important once like Nance pelosi, Mccain..so on...about providing some non-contraversial releif...we need to mention those and send LEGIBLE HAND WRITTEN LETTERS without spelling mistakes and send it fedex.....Send it during Chirstmas ...dot forget to mention God Bless America...just explain in simple words that we have been waiting for some relief from 2001 and have not seen any...please consider passing these non-contraversial issuses....I think they are reasonable and would agree....also mention that we have been dodged like a football saying skill/CIR and so on....
Better yet a skillfull person writing this and all of us using this...
Target is to intorduce the EB interm bill by End of Jan
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thomachan72
05-27 08:47 AM
Hallo friends, I heard unofficial reports that the reason Dem and certain repub senators are so strongly supporting the cause of ilegal immig is because a huge lobbying group comprised of GC holders + citizens belonging to these groups (hispanics) have promised support to these senators. I therefore have a request to make to our more socially strong members in this group, Please contact our associations/groups and request their support. Mainly areas like CA, Chicago, Texas (dallas), washington etc etc where there are a lot of Indian / other foreign community. Lets get them to talk to their senators for us. And if they dont / are not willing to do that, we should also let them know that this will be anounced publicly to the Indian media / Govt. This is an important obligation on their part to support and raise their voice for us. We are a part of them and if they dont stand for us, we have to point that out publicly. Please somebody take charge of this and see that it happens. We H1b holders strugling for ourselves will not make any difference.
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02-10 07:06 PM
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like_watching_paint_dry
12-11 12:19 AM
This could be one side of story. There were other posts which was mentioning about some fake resumes given by some Indian consultancy companies. So all those are isolated cases and we cannot take into account. I am seeing lot of hard working Americans and Indians as well. Also a family person with 2 kids cannot spend 12 or 16 hours per day compared to Bachlors(Most of the Bachlors who are spending 12 to 16 hours are H1b persons). If assesment is done based on that then that does not make any sense. Then do you thinkyou need to fire more than 35 year Old people and recruit 25 year people That is not American way. This country for long time Top rankholders as well as school dropouts also could survive and Lead a decent quality of life. I knew lot of Indians most of them gc holders and some H1b also those who were just average in skills had tough time in getting job between 2000 to 2004 because of more number of H1B people and also economy was bad. So there is no surprise some Americans also might have similar situation. But past 2 years everybody I knew were able to get job and survive well. This is because of economy and also because of limited H1b. But Corporations are asking too much h1b(unlimited by 20% automatic increase every year and exemption for PhD/MS people). Certainly that will kill the demand in job market and bring down the rates. I think H1B increase should be compromise between demand and supply. Otherwise there is going to be huge opposition. Congress cannot only favor Business. But as a Senator they have to take care of all groups of people. There may be a possiblity that H1b increase may happen but EB relief may not happen not that much strong lobbey from Business compared to H1B. American companies lie Micosoft, Intel culd not get H1B people because Indian consultancy companies grabbed all the H1bs in first few weeks of April and May not because of numbers. So that is a differentind of problem
Is there something we can do to lobby against unbridled H1B increases?
Maybe make a deal with our friends on the other side of the fence to lobby together for placing a sharp limit on H1B increase, especially without a corresponding increase in immigration numbers. Combine that with a speedup in eliminating the current backlogs. After all, the worst case scenario for them isn't flooding of H1B's in the market, but those H1B's already here & stuck at low wages and performing at the job levels of highly experienced techies simply because they are stuck because of mobility issues after 6 yrs of H1B.
It's easy to see that any increase in H1B without clearing the EB pipe will lead to a larger workforce of experienced and exploited workers driving the 5 - 10 year experienced folks wages lower. On the other hand, if the current EB backlog is cleared with very carefully calibrated H1B increases (maybe increase the number of visas for MS folks from the current 20K to 40K or something to relieve the current hiring inability businesses claim to have) would let the tons of people currently stuck to be free to move about and drive the wages up. This is what Numbersusa etc are hoping to see...
Is there something we can do to lobby against unbridled H1B increases?
Maybe make a deal with our friends on the other side of the fence to lobby together for placing a sharp limit on H1B increase, especially without a corresponding increase in immigration numbers. Combine that with a speedup in eliminating the current backlogs. After all, the worst case scenario for them isn't flooding of H1B's in the market, but those H1B's already here & stuck at low wages and performing at the job levels of highly experienced techies simply because they are stuck because of mobility issues after 6 yrs of H1B.
It's easy to see that any increase in H1B without clearing the EB pipe will lead to a larger workforce of experienced and exploited workers driving the 5 - 10 year experienced folks wages lower. On the other hand, if the current EB backlog is cleared with very carefully calibrated H1B increases (maybe increase the number of visas for MS folks from the current 20K to 40K or something to relieve the current hiring inability businesses claim to have) would let the tons of people currently stuck to be free to move about and drive the wages up. This is what Numbersusa etc are hoping to see...
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GCcomesoon
11-06 04:00 PM
Hi
What did the infopass appointment tell you? Were the officers knew what they were talking about?
Thanks.
They said they will send email to TSC & hopefully I should get the FP in next 30 days , if not I should come again which I did. This time they did the same email thing .Actually I went 2nd time to know whether my NC was clear or not. Menwhile I had created 2 SR's by calling USCIS too.
I hope to get the FP in next few days .
Thanks
GCcomesoon
What did the infopass appointment tell you? Were the officers knew what they were talking about?
Thanks.
They said they will send email to TSC & hopefully I should get the FP in next 30 days , if not I should come again which I did. This time they did the same email thing .Actually I went 2nd time to know whether my NC was clear or not. Menwhile I had created 2 SR's by calling USCIS too.
I hope to get the FP in next few days .
Thanks
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PDOCT05
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Did you contact USCIS regarding your case ? Any response or the regular
'wait for 30/45 more days' answer ?
Looks like today is holiday..i called up no response.
'wait for 30/45 more days' answer ?
Looks like today is holiday..i called up no response.
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bomber
07-20 12:22 PM
There are still many out there who are happily enjoying the fruits of Aman's and other core members' hard work without even knowing what they did for us. For them it's just something that happened on its own. I joined in June and became a contributing member when I came to know the efforts being put in by core. I know for some people shelling out $100 is a big deal, particularly AFTER the victory in this first fight, but guys, think if you were made to wait for 3-4 more years before you were allowed to apply. Your spouses can work now and make more money for your household.
I pledge another $200 for IV once my wife starts working - This is apart from regular contributions that I will make.
I pledge another $200 for IV once my wife starts working - This is apart from regular contributions that I will make.
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aquarianf
04-24 11:18 AM
Guys one more perspective:
1) Employers are not in the business of litigations. Their business is to run the company. If you or the employers are talking lawsuits then one of you have crossed a red line. It is just that. No sensible person goes to the court knowing he has done wrong. I doubt an employer wants lawsuits. Just like you feel threatened by lawsuits, your employer also feels threatened by lawsuits.
2) Surabhi - nothing personal, but your post reflect how the ideal world should be. However world is not your way always.
3) I agree with acquarian, that it is very stressful if employer threatens to sue you. Also attorneys will charge you $200/ per hr. If someone is saying that attorneys recover money later etc, I say chill. Most attorneys would not do that. They like hourly rates. Its very difficuilt to find an attorney for free unless your case is slam dunk.
Why I suggested he apologize? Be humble. I did not say admit your mistake. I just said aplogize for employers grievance. If two simple words "I apologize" can get your job done, why waste time in attorneys court, etc?
Based on my past experience, I am telling you, you never know when you will need a past employer. You will not need your past client, I have been at atleast 10 client sites, I never needed a past client for something, but I always had to go back to my employers for something. They are like ex GFs or ex spouses and leaving a job is like divorce.
Where you will need your employer? When USCIS sends you an RFE to prove employment experience with XXX company. There is nothing in the law that forces employers to give you an experience letter unless he fired you. Now try getting a court order in 90 days to meet your RFE deadline
When you get a job in fortune 500 company or better opportunity after your GC, your future employer will want to talk to all employers in ur history. Ready for that? Want to give the number now or want to let the job go?
Thats why I am saying DO NOT fight with ex employers. You will get hurt more than the employer. Your ex boss is not a bad guy, he knows you are leaving for better opportunity. Since he remembers what you have done for him, a few kind words will solve the matter.
I needed one such reference in my past, I called and apologized to my former boss because if I didnt, he would not cooperate and nor I had time for years worth of lawsuits. It took about a month, but the matter was settled in my favour.
I agree with kshitijnt that you need past employer more than you need client. In my case I had received 485 query to supply some my employment related docs ( whether that I am working with responser or working with someone else, letter from company showing my current position,sal. etc). Since I didn't change my employer, it was very easy and quick to get such documents from current employer. Imagine if I would have switched on EAD then I would have to chase my past employer for letters, paystubs etc and by the I would got them from past employer,I faced the risk of PD moving back.
1) Employers are not in the business of litigations. Their business is to run the company. If you or the employers are talking lawsuits then one of you have crossed a red line. It is just that. No sensible person goes to the court knowing he has done wrong. I doubt an employer wants lawsuits. Just like you feel threatened by lawsuits, your employer also feels threatened by lawsuits.
2) Surabhi - nothing personal, but your post reflect how the ideal world should be. However world is not your way always.
3) I agree with acquarian, that it is very stressful if employer threatens to sue you. Also attorneys will charge you $200/ per hr. If someone is saying that attorneys recover money later etc, I say chill. Most attorneys would not do that. They like hourly rates. Its very difficuilt to find an attorney for free unless your case is slam dunk.
Why I suggested he apologize? Be humble. I did not say admit your mistake. I just said aplogize for employers grievance. If two simple words "I apologize" can get your job done, why waste time in attorneys court, etc?
Based on my past experience, I am telling you, you never know when you will need a past employer. You will not need your past client, I have been at atleast 10 client sites, I never needed a past client for something, but I always had to go back to my employers for something. They are like ex GFs or ex spouses and leaving a job is like divorce.
Where you will need your employer? When USCIS sends you an RFE to prove employment experience with XXX company. There is nothing in the law that forces employers to give you an experience letter unless he fired you. Now try getting a court order in 90 days to meet your RFE deadline
When you get a job in fortune 500 company or better opportunity after your GC, your future employer will want to talk to all employers in ur history. Ready for that? Want to give the number now or want to let the job go?
Thats why I am saying DO NOT fight with ex employers. You will get hurt more than the employer. Your ex boss is not a bad guy, he knows you are leaving for better opportunity. Since he remembers what you have done for him, a few kind words will solve the matter.
I needed one such reference in my past, I called and apologized to my former boss because if I didnt, he would not cooperate and nor I had time for years worth of lawsuits. It took about a month, but the matter was settled in my favour.
I agree with kshitijnt that you need past employer more than you need client. In my case I had received 485 query to supply some my employment related docs ( whether that I am working with responser or working with someone else, letter from company showing my current position,sal. etc). Since I didn't change my employer, it was very easy and quick to get such documents from current employer. Imagine if I would have switched on EAD then I would have to chase my past employer for letters, paystubs etc and by the I would got them from past employer,I faced the risk of PD moving back.
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lutherpraveen
10-14 09:27 AM
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WAS IT ALSO A LIN#? I AM PATIENTLY WAITING......HOPING TO BE NEXT.
WAS IT ALSO A LIN#? I AM PATIENTLY WAITING......HOPING TO BE NEXT.
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rbharol
10-25 04:24 PM
Can somebody ask these people (who are opposing immigration), how many of them are kids, grandkids or grand-grand kids of immigrants themselves?
Will they conduct a poll on it?
Will they conduct a poll on it?
Green.Tech
03-25 10:19 PM
I tried doing that. Convinced the employer to file a new labor for a new position, advertized again, filed a new labor under PERM, applied for a new I-140 and waited for a year for approval ... now the I-140 has been denied for A2P and is under appeal; I must confess that I have lost hope that it'll get re-opened and approved.
So all my efforts for getting a EB2 140 have failed.....what do you recommend, I start this entire process again. Even if I'm willing to bear the cost, the employer will not file yet another labor.
EB3 wait is my only way out now......
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Good point, gene. Folks think that switching to EB-2 is easy enough...not really...esp. with no PP for 140...It can take years to convert in the present situation...and a lot of companies are not interested to file second labor or 140...
Hang in there mate...
So all my efforts for getting a EB2 140 have failed.....what do you recommend, I start this entire process again. Even if I'm willing to bear the cost, the employer will not file yet another labor.
EB3 wait is my only way out now......
thanks
Good point, gene. Folks think that switching to EB-2 is easy enough...not really...esp. with no PP for 140...It can take years to convert in the present situation...and a lot of companies are not interested to file second labor or 140...
Hang in there mate...
yardin
09-08 02:03 AM
I140 Applied on 16th July
485 Applied on 27th July
Received Receipt on 6th Sept
485 Applied on 27th July
Received Receipt on 6th Sept
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